One suggestion that I'd like to make is that we start utilizing Deep Space Stonewall. Right now, Stonewall Fleet has a much higher demand because everyone moves their current "main" character to that fleet. If we could balance our active players in both fleets, we could level the DSS Starbase more quickly and double our ability to requisition Engineering Personal Provisions. Despite the fact the DSS is a little less leveled, there is no downside to having your character in that fleet over Stonewall Fleet.

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Shouldnt we really be talking about the god awful Chimera Heavy Destroyer and not a classy ship the Vista is ugly to looks like a one night stand between a heavy cruiser and a long range science ship.

I Think that was the point

Personally I was always fine with the original excelsior design.... I dont see why they needed to change it so much for generations. A little tweeking here and there maybe, but hey whats done is done. It's still one of the classics

What in the hell...

Shouldnt we really be talking about the god awful Chimera Heavy Destroyer and not a classy ship the Vista is ugly to looks like a one night stand between a heavy cruiser and a long range science ship.

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It is well ugly! Agree with the op :P Better watch u might get in trouble from members.... the excelsior is some of their babies... shame no one told them their child was ugly :P

Well-meaning friends, wincing inside, have always told them, "Yep! That's a baby!" Unfortunately, what was heard was, "That's a beautiful baby," and the delusion was perpetuated. :ohmy:

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Oh Rocket Rocket Rocket.... I dare you to try to ram my ship.

:whistle:

Sorry, I'm married. :blush:

It is well ugly! Agree with the op :P Better watch u might get in trouble from members.... the excelsior is some of their babies... shame no one told them their child was ugly :P

PVP Me :evil:

Oh Rocket Rocket Rocket.... I dare you to try to ram my ship.

Much love,

Grayson

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OMG! I love when Scotty told the Excelsior's computer; "up yer shaft ya bucket'o bolts." :laugh:

Dude the Enterprise-B is my favorite "Bucket of Bolts" design.

My apologies if this comes off as overly hostile. My concern was mainly with the falsehood of Full Frontal Freedom and and the consideration of an underwear model as a "role model".

I'll revise the wording to show that the concern is more of a professional complaint, not to be aggressive against the models personally.

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it actually first appeared in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country captained by Captain Sulu (George Takei).

It actually first appeared in Star Trek 3: Search For Spock. The refit design which he may actually be directly referring to was done for the Enterprise B in Generations. I didn't think it looked that bad compared to the original design. Just sort of beefed-up but still a proud and graceful design.

Yes, after typing my original post off the top of my head, I remembered that it appeared before ST VI and corrected it.

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it actually first appeared in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country captained by Captain Sulu (George Takei).

It actually first appeared in Star Trek 3: Search For Spock. The refit design which he may actually be directly referring to was done for the Enterprise B in Generations. I didn't think it looked that bad compared to the original design. Just sort of beefed-up but still a proud and graceful design.

To be fair I fleet the Fleet Advanced Escorts are a kitbash of two Intrepid model rejects

I spent the past couple of years doing out reach and charity work through AHF and the Gay and Lesbian Center of LA. On several occasions we did work with Andrew Christian as a means to promote the event or give them the opportunity to promote themselves (helping the local businesses).

Heard many negative stories from people as well as negative comments about their attitudes at the event. I should have specified that a lot of this comes from the pros and businesses I worked with who felt the actions and appearance of the company was unprofessional. Maybe the behaviors of the people individually isn't all that distinct from many in the West Hollywood area; the issue comes from it's interaction with an advocacy and fund raising group. Boys in underwear really isn't the vanguard you want in expressing a desire for civil rights, as much as we may see it in LA. As far as the Center is concerned; working with them has as many issues as working with companies like Sean Cody, Randy Blue, or Corbin Fischer. It's not bad that it exists; but its out of place and giving the wrong idea.

Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves! :cheer:

The aesthetics of the the design are purely subjective and some of us actually like it.

As far as Cryptic using it for a higher tier ship, there's probably several reasons not the least of which it actually first appeared in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock (as well as later movies and eventually captained by Captain Sulu (George Takei). It was also the class for the Enterprise-B as well as appearing in several episodes of TNG.

Aside from all of that, in Star Trek lore, it was a highly reliable workhorse of the Federation for a long time. Good luck trying to take it out by ramming it. =)

Keep this post away from Grayson, he's talking about the Excelsior class retrofit :S