Jon...
I think this is a great idea! Once we get the information together, if you're okay with it, I can add this data to each person's entry on the Leadership thread.
What I'd like:
Someone to explain what the heck is going on! I don't mean hey let's throw a post here. I mean make a post take an initiative to communicate. Inform us of why everything happened up until this point and what is being done to resolve it. (that is what you do in true clean up of messes)
Yes, that's less than 24 hours ago.I actually quoted that from page 10 of the thread
http://www.knightsofstonewall.com/forums/cantina/38410-splitting-kos-into-sub-guilds?limit=6&start=54#38545
Which is why an official post should have been made somewhere as the information scattered in this one isn't helping anyone.
Yes, that's less than 24 hours ago.I actually quoted that from page 10 of the thread
http://www.knightsofstonewall.com/forums/cantina/38410-splitting-kos-into-sub-guilds?limit=6&start=54#38545
Which is why an official post should have been made somewhere as the information scattered in this one isn't helping anyone.
That quote was only communicated today and along with your official comment above, it labels anyone who's not a force wielder and refusing to switch as "non cooperative/not willing to assit" member. Translation: "jerks". I didn't want to be labeled as a jerk and didn't want to wait till being kicked out so I left. But I will never join anything with a name "soldier" on it so I'm left in limbo.Since those who aren't happy with it aren't being forced to move and those who were willing to assist have moved making room for more Knight/Consulars everyone should be happy.
The switch won't be forced or required. We'll simply be asking those willing to switch their non-force characters over to Soldiers of Stonewall.
So anyever, I will be pulling both of my toons from the guild. I love you all and will miss you. To all my buddies, I'll be on the server so you know how to get in touch with me.
The switch won't be forced or required. We'll simply be asking those willing to switch their non-force characters over to Soldiers of Stonewall.
Alright, so let's see everyone else make that sacrifice first before asking others and have the newcomers run the Knights of Stonewall where every officer leaves the guild to open up space. I'm sure the newcomers will run the guild just as good as anyone else.So would that be representing the community you stated before? We can't be a community and always just think of ourselves. If everyone in Stonewall during the riot had only thought of themselves they wouldn't have been a unit and it wouldn't be a part of history.
Common sense also told me when I joined the Knights of Stonewall, "the Flagship guild and a trademark", I wouldn't be forced to leave the guild to open up space for a newcomer.
I think you are seriously confused as to what consists of a business and what makes a community. None of the guild officers are being forced to "serve" anyone here but they are volunteering their time. Volunteering for a community (which is how it's defined all over this very website), is based on personal choice and it may not be used to rub it on a member's face as a leverage. Again, thanks god none of the officers here are as inconsiderate as that, the way you want them to act. It seems you don't truly know the meaning of our guild's name and what it's based on.First this is a business weather you get paid or not. The officer and guild leaders put time into it, they don't get paid for either. They pretty much pay for a game they probably do not get to enjoy as much as the rest of us because of all the complains they are getting.
Common sense also told me when I joined the Knights of Stonewall, "the Flagship guild and a trademark", I wouldn't be forced to leave the guild to open up space for a newcomer.Common sense should have told you that a sub guild was going to happen there. I could not have told you how they were going to do it. It did not take much to figure out it was going to happen with 450+ members in one guild when the limit is 500.
The crew encounter a member of the Q Continuum seeking to end his immortal life.
Sure, as long as I'm getting paid I wouldn't mind any change at all and then jump on to the next corporation as soon as they pay me 50 cents more along with my customer portfolio. But this is not a corporation or a fascist Middle East dictatorship. It's a community for liberal minded people standing up against oppression. "Stonewall" anyone? I am glad that the guild leadership doesn't share your views on this matter and as far as I know they are working hard to come up with a better solution.I do not understand the problem with just the officer having discussed this issue. If this was a place of business the employees would not be able to talk to the owner or bosses about what or how something is going to happen, it just happens. No discussion or talking to the employees, sometimes they might give a heads up, not always.So you knew about all of this before? Man wish we all had your insight. :)It is usually this is going to happen. If you are paying attention you know what is going to happen before it does happen.
Sure, as long as I'm getting paid I wouldn't mind any change at all and then jump on to the next corporation as soon as they pay me 50 cents more along with my customer portfolio. But this is not a corporation or a fascist Middle East dictatorship. It's a community for liberal minded people standing up against oppression. "Stonewall" anyone? I am glad that the guild leadership doesn't share your views on this matter and as far as I know they are working hard to come up with a better solution.I do not understand the problem with just the officer having discussed this issue. If this was a place of business the employees would not be able to talk to the owner or bosses about what or how something is going to happen, it just happens. No discussion or talking to the employees, sometimes they might give a heads up, not always.
So you knew about all of this before? Man wish we all had your insight. :)It is usually this is going to happen. If you are paying attention you know what is going to happen before it does happen.