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It's all one giant server. If you have a friend or fleet member in a zone before you arrive, you will typically load into their instance when you arrive.

Ah very cool! Thanks hon

Made this last night. It was pretty good, but need to thicken up the gravy more next time. I follow this recipe blog. She puts thme out every so often.

http://www.skinnytaste.com/2011/05/swedish-meatballs.html

Swedish Meatballs
Gina's Weight Watcher Recipes
Servings: 4 • Serving Size: 5 meatballs • Old Points: 4 pt • Points+: 5 pt
Calories: 213.5 • Fat: 10 g • Protein: 25.1 g • Carb: 8.5 g • Fiber: 1 g • Sugar: 2 g
Sodium without adding salt: 346 mg


1 tsp olive oil
1 small onion, minced
1 clove garlic, minced
1 celery stalk, minced
1/4 cup minced parsley
1 lb 93% lean beef
1 egg
1/4 cup breadcrumbs
salt and pepper to taste
1/2 tsp allspice
2 cups reduced sodium beef stock
2 oz light cream cheese

In a large deep saute pan, heat oil on medium heat, add onions and garlic; sauté until onions are translucent, about 4-5 minutes. Add celery and parsley and cook until soft, about 3-4 more minutes. Let cool a few minutes.
In a large bowl combine beef, egg, onion mixture, breadcrumbs, salt, pepper and allspice. Mix well and form meatballs with your hands 1/8 cup each (fill 1/4 cup then divide the meat in half).

Add beef stock to the pan and bring to a boil. Reduce heat to medium-low and slowly drop meatballs into the broth. Cover and cook about 20 minutes. Remove the meatballs with a slotted spoon and set aside in a serving dish. Strain the stock, add to blender with cream cheese and pulse until smooth. Return to pan and simmer a few minutes to thicken, then pour over meatballs. Garnish with parsley and serve over noodles or with toothpicks if you want to set these out as an appetizer.

This makes 22 meatballs, nutritional info is based on 5 meatballs with gravy.

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In media there's a lot of straight romance and rarely gay romance. A lot of the gay romance in media is either gay male stereotypes or sexy lesbians because straight guys like seeing sexy woman having sex and like looking down on effeminated guys.

I see this changing, at least when it comes to the U.S. market, and depending on what audience the show is targetted at. The younger the demographic (but over the age of "innocence") the more likely you are to see non-stereotypical gay characters.

Yes, I'll admit to having watched it, but I loved how Greek gave us a variety of gay characters (from, he's gay?! to HOLY CRAP did he just "flame on"?) and both positive and negative gay couplings.

Glee has been treating the subject pretty well. I was initially turned off that the gay kid was so obviously gay, but with the addition of closeted Korofski and now Blaine, there's a bit more variety now.

I've been flabbergasted by Torchwood on Starz. I was afraid the Americanization of Torchwood would essentially castrate Jack (and initially it seemed to) but holy crap, we've seen more male on male nudity than I think I've ever seen on the non-internet connected screen. ;-)

It's the same generational break I see in my own personal life. People of the younger generations (say younger Gen-Xers and below) could care less, while Gen Xers tend to be ambivalent, and the older generations tend to be anti-homosexuality.

Bringing it back to BioWare though... They could shut down the discussion altogether if they choose. One of their writers posted a poignant article about the tyranny of the majority and the perception that including SGRAs in Dragon Age 2 was seen as giving the gay community something extra instead of it just being an equal option in gaming. In all of this I've learned that LucasArts has donated money to pro-gay marriage organizations. This is why the current "contractual" restriction regarding their server provider seems a logical possibility. Such a situation, being a legal document, and something that needs to be treated carefully, could easily explain the silence.

Simple fact is. We don't know. I just personally believe that jumping to the worst possible conclusion until we actually know something does neither us, nor them, any good. An extreme scenario, but if BioWare announced tomorrow that contractual obligations had prevented them from including SGRAs, however, as soon as they can move their server infrastructure internally in 6 months, they will be activating the content since it's actually ready to go, people would have worked themselves into a frenzy against the wrong people and for the wrong reason.

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Also if I do is there a server everyone is on? (I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't find it)

It's all one giant server. If you have a friend or fleet member in a zone before you arrive, you will typically load into their instance when you arrive.

Quick question for you that have been playing STO for sometime now. I registered on their website and was thinking about trying the game. Do you think it would be worth trying out with SW:TOR being right around the corner? I would probably only be playing STO for a month or two until release of SW:TOR.

Also if I do is there a server everyone is on? (I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't find it)

I read your post Z and didn't think it was all that bad. I hope at some point BioWare comes out with a reason. I'm sure there is a good one or at least come up with something believable.

Very cool! Love that it's now including both STO and TOR articles! :)

Loving it, although im afraid i have to authorize a visit from the Imperial Problem Solvers on MikeyNY for releasing classified information.

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Yesterday, for my Massively.com Livestream, Josh@six-of-nine, Valen@Kahless2001, Denis@SBOSlayer,@mrbluegrey and I completed Khitomer Accord in 1 hour 20 minutes.

I uploaded the video so you can see it :)

Gratz fellas!

You know, if it was in higher resolution I would've saved it and sent it to friends to get them interested in STO :P

Yesterday, for my Massively.com Livestream, Josh@six-of-nine, Valen@Kahless2001, Denis@SBOSlayer,@mrbluegrey and I completed Khitomer Accord in 1 hour 20 minutes.

I uploaded the video so you can see it :)



Gratz fellas!

Bioware isn't discriminating us any more than the rest of the world is. Unfortunately most of the world is straight. In media there's a lot of straight romance and rarely gay romance. A lot of the gay romance in media is either gay male stereotypes or sexy lesbians because straight guys like seeing sexy woman having sex and like looking down on effeminated guys.

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I published this today on the SWTOR SGRA website. It got deleted by the mods because it apparently was not on topic and caused alot of argument about semantics. They gave me a warning for hijacking the thread, oh well.

Bioware are insulting us in the way they treat the same-gender romance arc discussions on the forum. Whenever someone opens a new thread on the general forum about SGRA it very quickly gets closed and redirected to the existing thread in the backwater called suggestions. Threads on other subjects only get redirected when there already is another thread on the same subject on the first page of the general forum. As i'm writing this there are new threads on the first page of the general forum about WoW, twitter, beta access, trolls, character creation, last fridays update, open beta and lifetime accounts. All of which have already had numerous threads. Try creating another thread about SGRA and it gets closed and redirected quickly. Zeddikas, you didn't hijack the thread, you got redirected there by zealots.

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In spite of all this, the very fact that the Mods keep recreating the SGRA Voting thread every time it reaches a certain size tells me they aren't "discriminating". In fact they keep encouraging the discussion, even as they remain tight lipped on their reasons why.

They are encouraging us to keep the discussion in one thread on the backwater called suggestions. They don't want SGRA being discussed on the visible general forum. It's their forum, they are allowed to say what we can and can't do, but they are insulting us by not treating this subject in the same way as they do any other subject.

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Please click here, or check your e-mail inboxes, for the 7th issue of Volume 2 of The Stonewall Times!

A special thank you to our new Senior Editor, Mike T. (@DakonKor), for his hard work in brining us the first ever SWTOR section and a brand new layout! Also, big thanks to this month's contributers is in order! Kudos to you all for one of our best issues yet!

Your feedback and comments are greatly appreciated; feel free to post them here or send them to times@stonewallfleet.com.

Enjoy! :)

Episode 371 - Deep Space Nine - "Return to Grace" - 02/05/1996

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=3414

Dukat seeks Kira's help in regaining his rank in the Cardassian Empire.

Enjoy!

DakonKor. Yah, very good outlook on the issue. The SGRA thread gets so contentious sometimes, it's hard not to respond in kind. People say some hateful things there. The mods shut it down regularly to clean it up, so yes they do care about the community. This was the first time I was actually warned about a post, so I learned a lesson. The silence from Bioware is deafening, but am giving them the benefit of the doubt for now.

I would love to do some role playing. How do i join this channel? :voy:

As someone who is in publishing, I'm always careful about the words that I choose, and the sources I cite.

Discrimination at the very core of it's definition, is discernment, taste, acumen, or perception.

Discrimination isn't by default, a bad thing. Every time you make a choice for dinner, or which route your are going to take on a trip, is discrimination.

That said, "discrimination" as it's being used here gets thrown around too easily. Discrimination should be taken very seriously, and throwing the word around with little regard to the availability of factual information cheapens it.

I stand by my earlier statement that BioWare has an excellent track record of inclusion in the games that they develop (KOTOR, Dragon Age 1 & 2, and Mass Effect 3). There has to be a very good reason for them to NOT be including SGRA, and a similarly good reason for them NOT to announce why yet. In spite of all this, the very fact that the Mods keep recreating the SGRA Voting thread every time it reaches a certain size tells me they aren't "discriminating". In fact they keep encouraging the discussion, even as they remain tight lipped on their reasons why.

"Discrimination" is the last word I would be throwing at BioWare right now. Especially when we have no facts upon which to base what should be a very serious accusation, and BioWare's previous track record. If they come out tomorrow and say, "we didn't include the SGRA romances because we hate fags," I'll join you in harping on them. But for all the rumors flying around it could be anything from lack of development hours to contractual obligations or any number of other reasons.

The now infamous "no" answer to SGRA tells me that BioWare CAN'T talk about it right now. Heaven knows the folks at BioWare are a talkative bunch and the delivery of the answer is as out of character as the answer itself is. I suspect, in time, BioWare will have the discussion when they can.

I published this today on the SWTOR SGRA website. It got deleted by the mods because it apparently was not on topic and caused alot of argument about semantics. They gave me a warning for hijacking the thread, oh well.

So, CALL IT WHAT IT IS

One group gets romantic stories tailored for their orientation, another group is left out from that opportunity. What might you call that? Make up your own mind after reading the definition below.

From the definition of the word "discrimination" in Wikipedia:

"Discrimination is the actual behavior towards members of another group. It involves excluding or restricting members of one group from opportunities that are available to other groups.[2] Moral philosophers have defined it as disadvantageous treatment or consideration."

Remember discrimination does not have to be intentional for it to be such. I know many of you balk at such a harsh word, but really ask yourself, is there a group of people being excluded from a certain kind of immersion, identification of story, and enjoyment that another group has available to them? If so, again refer to the definition above. Or do you simply object to this definition? Or does the premise that anyone is being excluded totally miss the mark?

We should be seeing the announcement on Tuesday :) It should include benefits comparison charts, LTS vs Monthly info ETC

I'm curious how this will look for me--someone who closed his account paying month-to-month, who will restart it under FTP. I worry that I will lose some of the features currently belonging to my toons that I worked for months to get.

Episode 370 - Deep Space Nine - "Crossfire" - 01/29/1996

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=3413

Odo's hidden feelings for Kira surface when the visiting Bajoran First Minister begins to court her.

Enjoy!