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Hi,

I consider myself still kind of new, so I thought I'd chime in on this with a newbie perspective.

I like the simplification, but perhaps it's a little over simplified. Seeing only the WIP version would make me go to an admiral/cap'n and ask what the *real rules* are ("So, what'll get me banned?"). However, I'm a little more outgoing than some others might be and have no problem going up to fleet leadership.

I think the WIP is a good preface or summary (or TL;DR version), but there should be the option to keep reading for specifics.

Actually, the older one doesn't really have cut-and-dried rules.) I think it would be nice if you had what's there and a little list like (..4. don't !$/%# swear! 5. keep it friendly for a 12-year old (ie we're here to game; no one wants to hear about your unspeakable extracurriculars.) Obviously not phrased as jokingly, but a appendix of don'ts might be a nice add-in. Maybe the admin can get together and hash out that list.

I would also want to tweak the formatting and make it not italicized. Keep the indent, but its not like the whole thing is too long to read otherwise.

Excellent points. Did the admins meet before this post went out? I know Halish was approved to work it but what's the aim, more loose and casual or more defined yet casual rules?

From what I've read, you've written a description of behavioral rules/guidelines. I did not see a statement regarding the consequences of not following the rules/guidelines (maybe there was a 2nd page, I've been reading this through my phone).

I like the agreement statement for Admirals and Fleet Captains -what are the consequences for them if they do not follow the rules/guidelines?.

You can make your rules/guidelines applicable to everyone by switching from the word "member" to "person" or providing a application clause at the start of your Code of Conduct "The following guidelines and rules apply to all persons within the stonewall gaming network".

Zander Hawk

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Shipwright is open to Admirals too :-P

I will get on this as soon as I have a few hours to do it LOL. Seriously I will try and get on it tonight.

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on the whole, yes, it is.

however, I am currently dating a guy that is of mixed ancestry, and looks exotic, but is definitely not a white guy, meanwhile, you see what I am in my avatar pic here, so, it's not always a thing, I think it has to do more with the racicm and sexism we encourage in schools still, kids group together by race and sex in school, then they start ridiculing those "not of their cloth" and we get bullying.

Prejudice and misconceptions we sadly carry with us into adulthood. I'm of mixed ancestry myself, my father being black/Samoan and my mother being ginger german. I can 'pass', and that has given me great insight as to how white people, or even other people of color think when they believe to be among themselves.

Though I have to say here in Germany the social scene is more integrated. When I used to go out on the weekends, you literally saw a smorgesbord of peoples all dancing , drinking, and enjoying the hedonism of it all. Usually there are specific party events where you know what you're getting as it's being advertised beforehand. But they aren't exclusive. I've had some of my best memories at lesbian events, and haven't at all encountered this 'I hate gay men' phenomenon. Though I have witnessed more than enough gay misogyny/ignorance towards lesbians.

Hey Everyone,

Its me again.

I just been keeping my eyes out on STO Forum to see if there is anything new that has appeared for the Tribble Server and today there was.

Please click this link for this week's relevant update to the Tribble Server.

Dax

on the whole, yes, it is.

however, it's not always a thing, I think it has to do more with the racism and sexism we encourage in schools still, kids group together by race and sex in school, then they start ridiculing those "not of their cloth" and we get bullying.

There may be areas where that isn't the case, but you can probably count those on one hand, sadly.

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I've not had time to look into gear still at MK XIIs, pretty small sized (per Meta's standards) in every aspect XD :blush:

Nice to see this there is a declining trend in slurs...

Data removed due to time constraints, i will be out of town that weekend, stupid pool association.

Shipwright is open to Admirals too :-P

If I can make it I want to play!!!!

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Level: 60
Class: Engineer

Will need some advice on my latest build out. Also I only have MK XII gear so I prefer not to go against anyone with MK XIV lol

So to facilitate all the players out there, I am creating this thread for players that want to participate in the tournament but do not have a team, or pairs that are missing a third.

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Most of the people I know don't even use twitter. Not to diminish the sadness of it all, but twitter is so far removed from my hemisphere that it doesn't bother me. It's like inviting it onto my computer is inviting them into my home, and I refuse to do that.


But it would be interesting if there was a flood brigade every time they see who used what when where...and kind of unsettling.

http://www.nohomophobes.com/#!/all-time/

hmm, so that's a thing you can watch to see how badly we really are talked about.. maybe we can use it to highlight the issue of it to people we know?

We have cleared our Cue today and we are ready for more orders!

Hi,

I consider myself still kind of new, so I thought I'd chime in on this with a newbie perspective.

I like the simplification, but perhaps it's a little over simplified. Seeing only the WIP version would make me go to an admiral/cap'n and ask what the *real rules* are ("So, what'll get me banned?"). However, I'm a little more outgoing than some others might be and have no problem going up to fleet leadership.

I think the WIP is a good preface or summary (or TL;DR version), but there should be the option to keep reading for specifics.

Actually, the older one doesn't really have cut-and-dried rules.) I think it would be nice if you had what's there and a little list like (..4. don't !$/%# swear! 5. keep it friendly for a 12-year old (ie we're here to game; no one wants to hear about your unspeakable extracurriculars.) Obviously not phrased as jokingly, but a appendix of don'ts might be a nice add-in. Maybe the admin can get together and hash out that list.

I would also want to tweak the formatting and make it not italicized. Keep the indent, but its not like the whole thing is too long to read otherwise.

Searching-for-lost-ship-build-bump. :)

I like the new rules (along with the grammar changes that Kasper suggested) but I have to be nit picky and request one bit of clarification:

Never say, type or post material which isn't suitable for a young teenager to see or hear.

We believe that in a community (whose) main objective is to provide a safe place for (primarily LGBT) people to converse without threat of insults or harassment, we can not exclude the most vulnerable part of our community, (those) under eighteen.

As such we operate a strict PG-13 policy in all public areas of our network and all members must promise to respect that at all times.

Isn't that a little too subjective to not spell out a little bit better? Some of the jokes my teen cousins and I share would be totally inappropriate in other families. ;) But seriously, hear me out, because I actually have two good reasons:

1) The statement as written is asking admins to make a judgement call. Do you really want to field reports from an in-game grudge that someone muttered "f**k" under their breath in chat, and the hearer was offended?

In this type of situation, if you take no action and the rule's that vague, you as the admin become the bad-guy. Not your fault, though. Even Wikipedia is vague about what constitutes PG-13.

It seems it would be much easier on Admirals if the rules were to head it off in specific terms before-hand. Nothing too graphic, but enough to be pretty cut-and-dried so that Admirals responding to complaints can just cut-and-paste the rule without having to quibble.

2) Also, I find it a little worrisome that the statement seems to prioritize the identity of the victim over actually addressing inappropriate behavior.

A bully doesn't need to know if I'm a teen or not, or even that I was offended - they need only know that saying, posting, or typing about extreme violence, pornography, illegal drugs, threats to any person, or graphic sexual acts is inappropriate for our fleet.

-- I'm not saying we should have a wall of text like the official STO forums do, or even necessarily spell it out in multiple bullet-points like the old rules did, but something that addresses what can't be said in a concrete manner is a little more enforceable than "don't do it if it'd embarrass your grandma."

Other than that nit-pickiness, it looks great!

I have 4 more ship masteries to go until 1 or 2 jh eng builds. Everyone that isn't a master player in this game should submit at least 1.

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