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I have slowly picked up a D'kyr, Vo and Negh'Var, liked the models.
Then, recently I got a great deal on some doubled up starter sets with a pair of customized galaxy class ships and some other Tournament only bits, (2 sets of federation and cardassian fighters, redshirts, Nor Station parts, lots of planets, a nice felt starfield play mat, faction color bases and some plastic movement finder parts)

at the time I write this I have an NX class and Chang's Bird of Prey on the way and just found out about one of the D7s coming with cyrano jones, who generates TRIBBLES! :woohoo:

really looking forward to getting into it more, finding some people that play it, who knows, maybe I'll find some good friends through it., seen the neat TOS gorn ship in person, played against some tholians, and seen some other nice stuff, (nebula class, cloaked ship models, The ship type Seven of nine's family flew...)

I think it is human nature to want to band together, forming "cliques", and then asserting dominance over other groups. Sort of a primal survival instinct.

I'm in no way defending it, as we're a few good thousand years from needing things like tribes and clans. In fact, I'm rather irked by any "Us vs. Them" kind of thinking.

Anyways, that's my thinking on the subject. I even distribute my disdain across ALL of humanity. :P

9 months ago when I assumed the Chief of Tactical Readiness Department I sent out a survey to gauge your interest and feelings about PvP.

We got a lot of data out of that and we are still using that data to plan upcoming things for you. But Since the Advent of Delta Rising, we've hit a snag. We've mined all the data available to us in the game but we need to know more. So I am asking for your help again with another Survey. Parts of the survey is to get your attitude and feeling about what we've done so far. The other part is to get a sample of where everybody is at so we can plan accordingly.

So please go to



and take the survey so we can get a better idea of what's what and serve you better.

It is completely anonymous so please be honest and we will post the results once we've gotten enough responses.

Thank you for your help

WhiteOnmyoji
Chief of Tactical Readiness

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I do like your baubles aswell, Dave .. very festive

I like Dave's balls a lot too, might feature em in the Times ;)

now, that looks like the bridge windows of an intrepid class to me.

Where it concerns more feminine or less masculine gay men, I think a huge part of the problem is that society is pervasively misogynistic. It's trickled down from the heterosexual patriarchy into the gay community. We've adopted a lot of societal preconceptions and enforced them on ourselves, which only leads to more oppression... this time not by others, but by ourselves.

Fighting for acceptance doesn't stop once we've achieved equal civil rights. There are centuries worth of cultural preconceptions and conditioning that need to be addressed, and the first way to do that is to stand up for yourself by not allowing anyone (especially within the LGBT community) to tell you who you may or may not be. Equality is not just for the elite few who can blend into "mainstream" society, it's for every person.

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So, this book had been recommended to me awhile back: The Velvet Rage



Now, full disclosure - the author is a clinical psychologist, but I don't want anyone to confuse his ideas with hard scientific fact. But even anecdote and example can be illuminating.

His basic gist is that gay men are so used to being belittled at an early age, as we grow older, we find ourselves often times overcompensating, seeking approval and validation through certain archetypal paradigms.

Take for example certain avenues in which gay men are often broadly reputed, even among ourselves and friendly allies, to excel at:

• living fabulously - we're supposed to have fantastic homes, stylish and comfortable
• living hotly - so this is the gym bunny archetype, but can be extended to the extra effort we put into clothes, beauty, hair, and everything else shallow

Now extrapolate this to everything - workplace, personal lives, our political lives. And the growing realization is that we're expected to somehow live these superhuman exceptional lives.

Which sounds like it's not a bad way to be, kind of an aspirational ideal, right?

So Downs goes on to describe the downside of all this living fabulously. Gay men experience statistically known higher rates of depressive disorders, drug abuse, and so on.

It should be said that the author specifies this cloud of phenomena and behaviors are specific for gay men; other folks in the LGBT umbrella have plenty of their own challenges that just don't map over. And he's not very forthcoming about Deepak Chopra-style means of coping with all these stressors in a healthy manner.

Agree with it, disagree with it - the point is to strike up a conversation about ourselves in a brutally honest fashion.

yeah, but it doesn't help us when within our own kind, we get slammed for not being as superhumanly perfect as we can, it's hard to do it all alone, especially when those that you attempt to trust and rely on, tend to abandon you with at best a snide or sarcastic remark, or sometimes simply stop talking to you when it gets tougher.


I might be a cynic, but I still believe things can be improved if people try, most of the time it seems like other gay people are apathetic ("it is how it is, just go with it.") or nihilistic ("there's no point in coming out, it only serves to alienate you and make you a target. " "Protesting oppression gets you shot" Well we are subhuman scum anyway, so, why does it matter?") beyond me.


it's a wonder to me how those people don't actually turn suicidal.

Pathfinder

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I remember my dealings with the Salvation Army when they came to My work and I was helping them every year with their shopping and their donations and it was always the same three old ladies that came in. They never seemed like they showed any form of negative karma my way. I'm surprised tho to see these links

Just like with a lot of churches, there are good people in them... then there's the leadership.

So, this book had been recommended to me awhile back: The Velvet Rage



Now, full disclosure - the author is a clinical psychologist, but I don't want anyone to confuse his ideas with hard scientific fact. But even anecdote and example can be illuminating.

His basic gist is that gay men are so used to being belittled at an early age, as we grow older, we find ourselves often times overcompensating, seeking approval and validation through certain archetypal paradigms.

Take for example certain avenues in which gay men are often broadly reputed, even among ourselves and friendly allies, to excel at:

• living fabulously - we're supposed to have fantastic homes, stylish and comfortable
• living hotly - so this is the gym bunny archetype, but can be extended to the extra effort we put into clothes, beauty, hair, and everything else shallow

Now extrapolate this to everything - workplace, personal lives, our political lives. And the growing realization is that we're expected to somehow live these superhuman exceptional lives.

Which sounds like it's not a bad way to be, kind of an aspirational ideal, right?

So Downs goes on to describe the downside of all this living fabulously. Gay men experience statistically known higher rates of depressive disorders, drug abuse, and so on.

It should be said that the author specifies this cloud of phenomena and behaviors are specific for gay men; other folks in the LGBT umbrella have plenty of their own challenges that just don't map over. And he's not very forthcoming about Deepak Chopra-style means of coping with all these stressors in a healthy manner.

Agree with it, disagree with it - the point is to strike up a conversation about ourselves in a brutally honest fashion.

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Thanks.
I play now my Jedi Knight character. Name's Maxwell-will

hmmmm "Maxwell-will does not exist." Are you on The Harbinger server? :(

I think if he's not online his character name doesn't show up. I searched several times for "Maxwell" as I figured your character name would have that in it and posted in the KOS channel but got no responses. We'll catch you at some point, though.

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Thanks.
I play now my Jedi Knight character. Name's Maxwell-will

hmmmm "Maxwell-will does not exist." Are you on The Harbinger server? :(

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I don't need no man.

I don't seek approval from anyone. Not even myself. especially myself, I set waayyy to high expectations.

And I sure as hell don't care what douche bags whom I never interact with think about me. I've ran into my fair share of that bull shit. You're not white, youre too short, youre Asian, youre blah blah blah. The only people I care about are the people close to me. If my car broke down in another state I can think of at least 5 people who would drop what they're doing and come pick me up. The bitches who act like they're better then everyone else can go fuck themselves.

riiiight!?


Heller n Good Mernting!

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Hey, is someone actually still using this channel? I try to get KoS guild invitation but no one seems to be there

If you post some of your character names, I'll try to switch over to the Republic side occasionally and keep an eye out for you, too.
:)

Thanks.
I play now my Jedi Knight character. Name's Maxwell-will

it's not all the members, it's never the entirety, and that's the problem, and the reason we need to point it out, because people don't know where it is rotten when they've only dealt with the nice portion.

Looks like Intrepid class to me.

You can't please all of the people all of the time, only some of the people some of the time.

It is human nature to be unique and an individual and then still critique others when they don't conform to an expected standard.

The difference is how you let that affect you, with regards to if it is directed towards you specifically or if it is directed towards others

Bellerophon class Long Range Science Vessel Refit?