Star Trek Into Disappointment (spoilers abound)

So I have a problem with the new movie, and that is that NOTHING original happened in the film.

The scene where That was pulled from the script of Voyager s02e14, Alliances.

The scene in the bar with Kirk and Pike was totally a rehash of the bar scene with them from the last movie. Same as the space jump scene.

Oh, and the hidden identity of the villian, like that really surprised anybody that

The USS Vengance looks way too much like the Ent E for my comfort.

And the whole death scene towards the end, sure props for doing it a different way, but we already had that scene in another trek film.

I could go on and on for pages and pages, but you get the idea.

I feel like the new movie was the worst star trek cinematic letdown ever. I'm sad.

Unfortunately I have to agree here. I was really disappointed in this one and it sorta felt like the writers couldn't come up with something original, so they decided to slap together a bunch of scenes from previous stories and added a little filler in between.


As always, the special effects were up to par but the storyline was really lacking. This is the first Star Trek movie where I kept wondering when it would end. :(

I think Rod Roddenberry had it right when he said that he felt that the Star Trek franchise belonged on television and not the movies.

Disagree alot, i really enjoyed the film. Also i really liked the nods to older films that we have seen.

Disappointment is the correct word to use.

I could write a long review but honestly you could read one of the other thousands of reviews to find all the points I'd make but I will sum up my feelings about Into Darkness in one sentence:

Star Trek (2009) is the much better film.

Disclaimer: I say that still having enjoyed Into Darkness and looking forward to seeing it again.

I would have to disagree with the majority, I loved the film.

I'm aware of the failings of story in that we have seen it before, but that is to be expected as we knew we have seen it before, just in a different timeline.

J.J. Abrams was trying to get a new generation of fans to love Star Trek, so he used the favourite bad guys and plot tricks that we all loved first time we saw them, but he wanted to keep the faithful fans entertained, so he gave us some great in-jokes and classic references to drool over.

I prefer this film to the last, simply for the nostalgia aspect and the fact that the new alternate characters are established and we don't need to waste time getting to know them. This one was all action, just a pity we couldn't see half the action due to the lens flare effects.

We'll you just saved me the 10 bux,sounds like the new trek is like fast food yeah its food but its not nutrition.

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We'll you just saved me the 10 bux,sounds like the new trek is like fast food yeah its food but its not nutrition.

Yes, but is it Chik-fil-e fast food whereby your soul will burn for all eternity for partaking of it or is it more Burger King fast food that just takes several months off the end of your life?

I liked it far more than I liked the 2009 film. It felt more like Star Trek than the first one, to me.

Yes I was disappointed that



But beyond that, I really... REALLY enjoyed this film.

I was especially pleased towards the end when



Also:



And that's all I have to say about that. (for now :3)

So I just saw the new JJverse trek offering and it was great! It was an amazing Star Wars movie and I think he's going to be very happy at Disney.

Just to be a b*tch, here's what got my geek fluids flowing:
-Praxis about 40 years too soon
-Android on the bridge?
-Golden ridged Klingons

Loved it. Started an alternative thread for people who liked it to talk about how awesome it is. Was only disappointed at some 'whitewashing' that was done with regard to the villain.

With regard to the android, he may have also been a cybernetic human. Maybe he had a brain tumor or something as a kid?

Also loved all the apocryphal references. In addition to the ones you mentioned...

I would love to see a section 31 movie out of this universe!

I have to confess, I did love it when they mentioned 31.

Thank you all for this... the reluctance has now turned into certainty: definitely not seeing this any time soon.

LOVVVVEEEED IT

Prepare yourselves! A rather harsh review is incoming.

I have a problem with this topic and a lot of the replies to this topic. My problem is this: everyone keeps calling this a Star Trek movie. In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing "Star Trek" about the movie other than the names.

Let me elaborate:


That is all I will say for now.

My BF made me see it tonight and now calls me pointy :angry: It left me feeling empty. It's simply regurgitated plot. Action film yes, hacky
uninspired writing clearly, Trek film in name only.

My 11-year-old and I agreed that it was a great movie, specifically that it was much better than the first one. We really enjoyed it.

My only complaint was about the cinematography, which I thought was too jumbled, chaotic, and jumpy. But I liked the plot and story a lot. Best movie I've seen in quite a while.

I could have done without them putting Kirk in bed with two alien girls. That made for a fun ride home...

Really? THIS is what they have reduced Trek to? A man having to explain to his 11-year old son why Bill Shatner's wannabe is in bed with two chicks...?? *WTF?*

Gay kids are killing themselves because there isn't a 1966 version of Uhura around for them to prove that you can indeed offer VALUE to a team saving everything; that you can BE SOMETHING other than *just* gay. Whoopie Goldeberg: Mama, mama...! There's a black lady on TV, and she ain't no maid!"

"...hey dad, hey dad...! There's a gay man on TV, and he ain't no dizzy stereotypical queen choking on his lisp!"

Support for this sorry excuse for a Trek movie is just wrong. Star Trek is at its very best when it is making a statement about us as human beings at our worst, and especially, at our best. Sorry if I'm a hater because I don't need a lense flare to make that happen. *INTO DARKNESS* *WEAK ACTION FLICK* ***FAIL***

I feel ya Renegade, I really really really really really don't want to see this movie and I have avoided all efforts by my other "Star Trek" fans to see this but when my grandmother asked me to go with her....well I guess I'll be seeing it tomorrow. I'll just pretend it's a generic science fiction movie with a Heinlein twist.

I think that some people's disappointment with this movie (as others have said), is because in large part, they're hoping for the traditional Star Trek that they remember.

After seeing the first movie, I realized that for me to be able to enjoy the new series, I could no longer think of the J.J. movies as the Star Trek I'd come to know and love; the two are completely different and separate things in my mind, despite them having the same name. They're just movies designed to cast as wide of a net as possible, in order to bring in the biggest audience and net the most money, without challenging social norms or providing hope for the future, beyond the potential for good looking guys in their early thirties to be sailing through space, representing Earth behind the wheel of a Trillion dollar space ship.

As heart-wrenching as it at first was to come to terms with the fact that the franchise I loved wasn't represented in the reboot, it really has allowed me to enjoy the movies for what they are as opposed to being upset over what they're not... and then I squee a little bit when there's a reference or head-nod to the Star Trek series that I really care about :D

I can always justify inconsistencies with the alternate timeline mumbo-jumbo. I just don't take it seriously, and it allows me to be happy with the entertainment, while I wait for a real Star Trek series to make it's way back to TV.




I can almost understand the studio's frustration with the Trek franchise, though. Trekkies and Trekkers are notoriously difficult people to please, so when how many movies (Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis come to mind), which were all met with stiff opposition from the Trek community, and their new television series (Enterprise) was so unsupported by Trek fans to the point that it had to be cancelled, it makes sense for them to have thrown their hands up in exasperation and try to make the franchise appeal to a wider audience. In a sense, it could almost be argued that Star Trek fans have done this to themselves.

In fairness, I also refused to watch Enterprise when it was on TV, so I'm as much to blame as anyone... now a few years later, I've bought and watched the series and enjoyed it immensely. There was a lot of good Trek in that series, but I couldn't let myself see it at the time.

I guess, in conclusion.. go see James Bond: In space (aka: Star Trek), and I think you'll still enjoy it ;)