Santorum

Has anyone tried googling "Santorum"? Try it and then look about halfway down the page for the definition of Santorum.

I promise, if you didn't know the definition already, it is definitely worth the look.

I've known about this for awhile. I forgot the left-wing activists name, but he made a concerted effort to (for a while) make his "definition" the number 1 spot on Google. He understands how to manipulate Google's search engine to get top spots and in this case he succeeded. Though it sounds like with the presidential primaries he's lost his place.

I understand disagreeing with somebody's stance, but this, in my opinion, is a form of cyber terrorism directed at an individual, and designed to shut down free speech, not encourage public debate. If nothing else, it provides ammo for those who disagree with same sex marriage to color the entire movement by using this kind of activity as examples of how "we" operate.

Dan Savage. He writes a sex advice column. It ran for a long time on gay.com. I'm not sure whether to be frightened, amused, or both. There one thing I do know: not to make Dan Savage mad.

I thought it was funny at first, then I realized that at its core Dan Savage is no more than a cyberbully. No matter how despicable someone is they don't deserve to be bullied. I'm vary disgusted with 'Tireless Advocate' for the bullied
Dan Savage, he lowered himself and the gay community by extension, I for one am ashamed.

Having been bullied when young i understand your guys' being upset, but remember, Rick Santorum is not an innocent child.He knows what he is saying and doing and he would like nothing more than to have America go back to the 50's with regards to us. Im sure he would say "what a crime these men got strung up or beaten to death, but then again it was their choice to live as gay men.". I just dont pity any bully that gets bullied, even if its by another bully.

I find it funny lol, Santorum has his write to free speach, as does dan savage. Dont really see any bullying to be honest

As much as a loathe wikipedia there definition of cyberbullying fits the bill Cyberbullying is the use of the Internet and related technologies to harm other people, in a deliberate, repeated, and hostile manner. Mr. Savage violates every one of these. A bully is still a bully even if there on our side. A victim is still a victim no mater how repugnant they are decent society. Remember "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."(Gandhi). The gay community is better then this( or should be)

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Having been bullied when young i understand your guys' being upset, but remember, Rick Santorum is not an innocent child.He knows what he is saying and doing and he would like nothing more than to have America go back to the 50's with regards to us. Im sure he would say "what a crime these men got strung up or beaten to death, but then again it was their choice to live as gay men.". I just dont pity any bully that gets bullied, even if its by another bully.

That is very well said Saint. We aren't going to win this battle for equality by slinging mud. It is a shame that the hopes and dreams of many can be tarnished by a select minority but it happens in every group of humanity. I am sure the Republic party as a whole are not too thrilled by the exchange either. While we may disagree politically there are better ways to get a message across without resorting to any type of violence or extreme public humiliation.

-Kevin

I have a few minutes before work so I thought I would weigh in on the topic. When I originally posted the link, I thought it was an interesting response to Santorum's "hate" rhetoric. I still think it is an interesting response but I'm not sure it is a bad response or a good response when I compare the actions of the two people--Savage and Santorum.

I believe Savage's intentions were to try to get Santorum to stop associating homosexuality with beastiality and pedophilia. Savage did what he did right after Santorum responded to the Catholic Church Sex Scandal where he associated the child sex abuse and cover up as not the act of a pedophil but the act of a homosexual and then went on to include beastiality and incest in his comparison. In response, Savage offered to stop the google spammed definition if Santorum donated a large sum of money to a gay rights advocacy group and stopped associating homosexuality with beastiality.

I think his intentions were definately good and I liked the fact that his actions gave room for the gay voice to respond to Santorum's allegations and associations. Could it have been done another way? Probably but he did something I didn't and he spoke up so I'm not going to criticize one way or the other way.

So in other words blackmail.

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I have a few minutes before work so I thought I would weigh in on the topic. When I originally posted the link, I thought it was an interesting response to Santorum's "hate" rhetoric. I still think it is an interesting response but I'm not sure it is a bad response or a good response when I compare the actions of the two people--Savage and Santorum.

I believe Savage's intentions were to try to get Santorum to stop associating homosexuality with beastiality and pedophilia. Savage did what he did right after Santorum responded to the Catholic Church Sex Scandal where he associated the child sex abuse and cover up as not the act of a pedophil but the act of a homosexual and then went on to include beastiality and incest in his comparison. In response, Savage offered to stop the google spammed definition if Santorum donated a large sum of money to a gay rights advocacy group and stopped associating homosexuality with beastiality.

I think his intentions were definately good and I liked the fact that his actions gave room for the gay voice to respond to Santorum's allegations and associations. Could it have been done another way? Probably but he did something I didn't and he spoke up so I'm not going to criticize one way or the other way.

I really can't believe you guys are defending Santorum. Let's make no mistake, this man is no friends to gays. He's quite the opposite.

He's made his entire political career into making us the enemy, into attacking us and trying to destroy us anyway he can. He constantly refers to us as pedophiles, polygamists, and refers to same-sex relationships as the same as bestiality. He's staked his presidential campaign not only on defining marriage as between one man and one woman but invalidating every marriage license granted legally to same sex couples. He doesn't just oppose the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, he wants to reinstate it and fire every glb person that's come out of the closet since it's removal.

Let's not be confused, if anyone's a bully here, it's Rick Santorum. And how do you stop a bully? You fight back.

Dan Savage started the campaign to define 'santorum' as it is back in 2003 after an interview with Associated Press Reporter Lara Jordan in which Santorum refered to the Roman Catholic sex abuse scandal as a "basic homosexual relationship". He went on to comment on Lawernce v. Texas in which he stated "the right to privacy doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution" and "sodomy laws properly exist to prevent acts which undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family." When asked if gay people should have sex he stated:

In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality.

As well,

If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.

This man does not deserve our respect or support. He is the enemy.

Bravo! Very well said, Nick! :)

I've fought my own bullies and other peoples bullies with both words and my fist. I do see that Santorum is our enemy but I also believe in Dr. King's words "Loving Your Enemies." It's so basic to me because it is a part of my basic philosophical and theological orientation—the whole idea of love, the whole philosophy of love. In the fifth chapter of the gospel as recorded by Saint Matthew, we read these very arresting words flowing from the lips of our Lord and Master: "Ye have heard that it has been said, 'Thou shall love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy.' But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you;
that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven."
So this morning, as I look into your eyes, and into the eyes of all of my brothers in Alabama and all over America and over the world, I say to you, "I love you. I would rather die than hate you." And I'm foolish enough to believe that through the power of this love somewhere, men of the most recalcitrant bent will be transformed. And then we will be in God's kingdom. We will be able to matriculate into the university of eternal life because we had the power to love our enemies, to bless those persons that cursed us, to even decide to be good to those persons who hated us, and we even prayed for those persons who despitefully used us.

Unfortunately the forces of evil at work will not abide by that same rule. They have waged an all out war on us, our lives, our families, and or freedoms. We CAN NOT just sit back and turn the other cheek. I agree with you 99% of the time; "kill them with kindness" has always been a life motto of mine. But I do not think that is enough in this circumstance. I want to be able to tell my children in 20 years, that this was a tough time in our lives, but we were victorious because we dint give up, we did not surrender, we did not hide. We fought for what was right and we won. Now don't misconstrue this and violence, because I wholly oppose that tactic as well. We must make ourselves heard, and let everyone know what we will not keep quiet. This IS that final leg of the civil rights movement. We have won so many battles in this march towards freedom. We cant let things like this deter us from the ultimate goal of equal right for everyone under the law. The tactics of Mr. Savage may be distasteful, but they are effective.

I really have no right to comment on Rick Santorum as I don't live in the US, and can only watch in horror as this idiot gets closer to the White House, but...

I think that as a public figure, Rick Santorum is not being bullied, he is being challenged in the same forum he uses to sway public opinion in his favour. I think the whole "santorum" redifinition was a little childish, but it's success helped show all those kids in the US who have been upset by his words and the resultant "gay-bashing" that his opinions are not the most popular ones and that there is plenty of support out there for them.

Let's not forget that words can be just as harmful a sticks and stones, but also remember that he threw the first stone.

Both parties are the same to me...full of shit.Santorum,savage,pelosi...they are all blips on my radar and then they are gone.