StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

Baron Von Heller

BaronVonHeller

StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 18 2012
Hello All,

I am very involved in politics. My BA is in Poli-Sci, so I find it very hard to sit quietly by and not be involved in politics and political discussions, especially during crucial election years.

I imagine some may not feel that politics belongs in regular chat, so, I created a chat specifically for discussing all matters of a political nature.

All respectful opinions and viewpoints are welcome. I believe that this is one of the most crucial times in living history for LGBT rights since the Stonewall riots, and I urge everyone to not just vote, but become involved.

While the very nature of politics may lead to some heated conversations, NO personal attacks of any kind will be tolerated.

Anybody who is interested may join: /join StonewallPolitics
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William

Siafu

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 18 2012
I will vote and I do take that seriously. This is my first time ever being in a LGBT guild and I feel right at home. However, where politics are concerned I'm going to shy away from this thread and leave the time and room for those of you who really do enjoy political discussions. I'm afraid I'm just not one of those people. I can see many people here diving into this pretty deep. I've seen some people here crawl all over politics like ants at a sugar convention LOL so much so I've often wondered how these people are even going to enjoy this game...when on the surface there was sooooo much LGBT issues they were monitoring and responding to...etc.

I hope that whatever level of politics you dive into, remember that we gathered here to enjoy a game together...I'm hoping that is first and foremost.

Respectfully,

Siafu
Edited September 18 2012 by Siafu
Baron Von Heller

BaronVonHeller

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 18 2012
Um, ok, not really sure how to take that post. If you are not interested in political discussions, don't get involved. There was really no need to make a post instructing us how to properly conduct ourselves though.

Also, let me clarify: I wasn't really intending this to be a political THREAD, just an announcement for the political chat that was created. :)
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Edited September 18 2012 by BaronVonHeller

Unknown Person

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 18 2012
I'm very much a believer in the thought that "If you don't do politics, you don't do much else". Because I think it has an impact on everything we do, even if it's something as small as paying to ride the bus or as large an issue as Gay Marriage.

That being said, don't you think that a in-game chat room is the wrong forum for discussing topics that require long debates and thought-out view points.

I think you may be better suited to create a group on this website to discuss politics. If you go to the groups section /network/groups you should be able to create a group that will allow you to have in-depth discussions, with separate topics, away from peoples "play time" and people who aren't interested don't have to join.

I think you should specify exactly that you're trying to do with this, as well. I'm British and we have politics but we don't have a crucial election coming up (well not for a few years), are you only interested in discussing politics in the US of A?

Halish
William

Siafu

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 18 2012
Quote by BaronVonHeller
Um, ok, not really sure how to take that post. If you are not interested in political discussions, don't get involved. There was really no need to make a post instructing us how to properly conduct ourselves though.

Also, let me clarify: I wasn't really intending this to be a political THREAD, just an announcement for the political chat that was created. :)



1. Um, ok, not really sure how to take that post. No offense intended...and I hope no offense taken. :)

2. If you are not interested in political discussions, don't get involved. I feel ever so slightly put-off by this comment though. This is my home now and it will be for many years to come, hopefully. Though I'm not an officer or anything but a member...if I feel a general concern about a topic that was started I will make a comment about my concerns...even if I am not going to participate in the overall topic. That seems fair and is a general right of all members to be able to voice concerns about something.

3. There was really no need to make a post instructing us how to properly conduct ourselves though. Friend, that wasn't an instruction on conduct...it was a mild concern that people could lose themselves in politics and diminish their overall gaming experience, that was all. :)
Baron Von Heller

BaronVonHeller

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 18 2012
Quote by Halish
I'm very much a believer in the thought that "If you don't do politics, you don't do much else". Because I think it has an impact on everything we do, even if it's something as small as paying to ride the bus or as large an issue as Gay Marriage.

That being said, don't you think that a in-game chat room is the wrong forum for discussing topics that require long debates and thought-out view points.

I think you may be better suited to create a group on this website to discuss politics. If you go to the groups section /network/groups you should be able to create a group that will allow you to have in-depth discussions, with separate topics, away from peoples "play time" and people who aren't interested don't have to join.

I think you should specify exactly that you're trying to do with this, as well. I'm British and we have politics but we don't have a crucial election coming up (well not for a few years), are you only interested in discussing politics in the US of A?

Halish


Points well taken.

My experience has been that forum threads tend to get a little lengthy and often times over-heated. I feel that having a real-time environment like chat might be better suited to my purpose for those who are politically inclined. For example things like "Did you just see what Obama or Romney Said"(or Cameron, for you Brits, lol)

I am not really looking to create an in-depth analysis of the various political institutions of the world. There are many other places I can go for that.

I simply noticed that there were others in the chat that seem to be like minded.

While I am American and the current Presidential elections are at the forefront of my interests, I DO enjoy discussing international politics as well.
Baron Von Heller

BaronVonHeller

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 18 2012
Quote by Siafu
Quote by BaronVonHeller
Um, ok, not really sure how to take that post. If you are not interested in political discussions, don't get involved. There was really no need to make a post instructing us how to properly conduct ourselves though.

Also, let me clarify: I wasn't really intending this to be a political THREAD, just an announcement for the political chat that was created. :)



1. Um, ok, not really sure how to take that post. No offense intended...and I hope no offense taken. :)

2. If you are not interested in political discussions, don't get involved. I feel ever so slightly put-off by this comment though. This is my home now and it will be for many years to come, hopefully. Though I'm not an officer or anything but a member...if I feel a general concern about a topic that was started I will make a comment about my concerns...even if I am not going to participate in the overall topic. That seems fair and is a general right of all members to be able to voice concerns about something.

3. There was really no need to make a post instructing us how to properly conduct ourselves though. Friend, that wasn't an instruction on conduct...it was a mild concern that people could lose themselves in politics and diminish their overall gaming experience, that was all. :)


1. Thank you for clarifying. :)

2. I certainly didn't mean to imply that you weren't welcome to join in or have an opinion. You are just as much a valued member of this fleet as anybody else is. You just stated that you weren't interested in the topic and wouldn't participate, and then went on to share your concerns about how this topic would potentially hurt people's gaming experience.

3.I took that as more than a little condescending, since I for one can do 2 things at once, lol. It also seemed that you were intending to try and quash the topic because of your concerns. I think most of us discussing these issues are mature enough to decide if it is interfering with our gameplay or not.

Personally, as much as I LOVE Star Trek Online, whether or not my Husband and I, along with all other LGBT's continue to gain equality or lose it due to changing political climates, is FAR more important.

So, it looks like we may have had a misunderstanding here. No hard feelings on my end. :) Now, back to more Pew-Pew-Pewing.)
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Edited September 18 2012 by BaronVonHeller
Russell Davies

Blasphemy

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 19 2012
A thread on politics ends p in an objest lesson on diplomacy...who knew.
Also have been following your run up to presidential elections on and off.
As an outsider I can say two things...

1: you have a very very odd system that seems to change the way you vote each time, That comes across as a bit suspect given it often ends up restricting voting. Not what you expect from a country that hails itself as the saviour of democracy and land of the free.

2: you have a candidate ( ill just call him Mittens) who has a fantastic way of shooting himself in the foot. Even his own party is pissed at how many people he seems to piss off. Great Britain, rape victims, the LGBT community, the millitary and now 54% of the population of the country he wants to run. If i wasnt for the fact people are taking him seriously id be laughing.

Now all the above is opinion remember so dont take anything as a personal attack, hell ic rather give a back rub than pistols at dawn.
William

Siafu

Re: StonewallPolitics LGBT Political Chat Group

September 19 2012
Quote by BaronVonHeller

3.I took that as more than a little condescending, since I for one can do 2 things at once, lol. It also seemed that you were intending to try and quash the topic because of your concerns. I think most of us discussing these issues are mature enough to decide if it is interfering with our gameplay or not.

So, it looks like we may have had a misunderstanding here. No hard feelings on my end. :) Now, back to more Pew-Pew-Pewing.)


I haven't counted, but in the General Topic thread there are perhaps dozens upon dozens of "Topics" and "none" of them ended with the "instruction" you gave at the end of this political invitation:

Quote by BaronVonHeller
While the very nature of politics may lead to some heated conversations, NO personal attacks of any kind will be tolerated.


If you were so sure that people could maturely "multitask" as you nicely put it...then why say that at all at the end of your invitation....unless you understood the risk involved...just like I did.

And no, there are no hard feelings....have a great day! :)
Edited September 19 2012 by Siafu