Star Trek Into Awesome

Starting a thread for people to pour some love on the new film, as the other one is one serious fountain of negativity.

I personally loved the movie. If you didn't like the reboot, yeah, you're not going to like this. However, if you're willing to let the alternate Star Trek universe go into some different and (quite frankly cool) places, you will love this movie. I went with a horde of Trekkies and we enjoyed practically every minute.

Yeah, it's not perfect. The end of the movie starts to get a bit weird (there's one contradiction with an establishment shot and one of the last scenes drags a bit), but it doesn't harm the movie.

Most of the complaints I've read/heard about the movie are rather nitpicky. If you go in with the same open-mindedness that's required to enjoy the last movie (and quite frankly, most other Star Trek movies), you will have a great time.

Also, for those well-versed in Trek historical apocrypha, this movie does an amazing job of couching its story in the larger Trek universes.

Finally: FUCK YEAH USING THE NATIONAL IGNITION FACILITY AS THE WARP CORE! As a scientist and someone how has visited the NIF at Lawrence Livermore, I thought that was super cool.

Adendum: I should add that there was one thing that did bug me about this movie in a significant way. However, it relates to a spoiler that you may or may not have seen coming. Soooo it's hidden in the spoiler text.

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Yes, one of the villains in the movie is Khan. However, he's also been whitewashed, as he is now played by the (very) white Benedict Cumberbatch instead of a man of color, as he originally was by Ricardo Montalban. Yeah, there are going to be the excuses that it was done to keep who he really was a secret. However, the fact that casting Khan as a race other than white would have given it away already speaks volumes of the major diversity problem in Hollywood.

The gorn baby line was cute, but I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't have any Kirk vs Gorn fight scene to lead into that. Also disappointed that it was, apparently, several years off of the Gorn's forced introduction to Starfleet. Oh well.

I am none too happy with JJ taking my beloved Star Trek and having his way with it, but apart from that, I thought it was an amazing film and felt infinitely more like Star Trek than his previous attempt.

Also, were there any easter eggs at the end of the credits? My friends all rushed me out of the theatre during the credits, the jerks.

I really enjoyed the film i really really did and it was visually stunning.

There was one review I read that was titled "Star Trek Into Dumbness". I really agree with that title (and most of the review's assessment).

I didn't like the film too much. I think it tried too hard to pay hommage to older Trek films. And it was still plagued by the immense plot holes and general stupidness of the first reboot movie. If you think about most of the plotlines of the movie for a minute, the whole thing sorta falls apart.

It's still an enjoyable movie for many of its action scenes and some of its ideas. But like its predecessor it's simply driven by action instead of stories or characters. It felt really mediocre to me in the end.

There are some things I'm not thrilled about at all: I don't get how Khan went from Ricardo Montalban to Benedict Cumberbatch. It doesn't make any sense and they don't try to explain it away. At all.

I also hate the U.S.S. Vengeance. It embodies a lot of what I think is wrong with the new Star Trek universe. The name alone is the opposite of subtlety and creativeness. The look of it is even more enraging to me. It's gross and untrek - not unlike some of the early STO designs (that even the devs are embarrassed about by now). And building a large vessel of mass destruction without anyone noticing? Yeah, Nemesis did that as well...

Yo, backyard, can you put that shit behind some spoiler text for the people who haven't seen it? Thanks.

I agree about the whitewashing of the villain. There is no excuse for that.

However, I'd argue that this movie actual had more character development than most Star Trek movies (which have traditionally been far more action-driven, like Wrath of Khan and First Contact). Additionally, the design of that ship is supposed to be un-Trek. It's supposed to represent everything the Enterprise does not. That was kind of the whole point.

I'd also argue that if you actually think carefully about the plot, there are less plotholes than you think. When I was discussing the movie with some friends, a lot of the plotholes they thought existed were taken care of; they had just forgotten some of the movie's dialog.

Here is a reply to the last persons comment. It has spoilers

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This is what Khan looked like in the original series episode Space Seed



And this is what he looked like in the movie Wrath of Khan



The Into Darkness Khan is meant to be about the same age as the Space Seed Khan, and he looks like this:

He was at least a believable character, but I too would have preferred he look more like the original.

One thing I really like a lot was the epic