Armada Chat for the Members?

Just a quick note to discuss the armada chat access for members, as we don't appear to have access to it. I was wondering if restricting the chat is by conscious decision or if we just haven't figured out how to give access to non-leadership ranks.

I did some Googling and found that some other fleets were having challenges with it. It seems that the Armada chat permission is linked to the fleet chat permission, as discussed over on the Protectorate Alliance forums, as per below:

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With the introduction of the Armada system we have a new Armada chat channel.

If you are having an issue speaking to the Armada channel please first check the following solutions.

1) Apparently you need access to "Fleet" chat in order to talk in the armada, or it does not register you as part of the armada, For fleets that have an inter-fleet channel and disable their "fleet" channel please reactivate it. To reactivate fleet channel access go into the fleet menu -> Settings -> make sure the "Fleet" permission is checked. If it is not find someone who can re-activate that permission.

2) Check your own settings. You might have someone on ignore. Or you might have a buggy privacy setting.

To remove someone from your ignore list press [o] and then ignore tab.

To access your privacy settings press [o] and then lower right corner (Privacy)

Worst case scenario you might have to reset your chat settings. For this : [Esc] -> Chat Settings -> Lower right corner (Chat Options) -> Lower left corner -> Click the dropdown arrow and select Reset Chat options to defaults.



PLEASE NOTE a KDF armada chat will not be seen by ANY FLEET that is not listed under the armada tab.

Just wondering if we could get a quick word on this from our Admiral overlords :)

Cheers!
D.

Hope they get the armada chat up and running soon.

Hi Dave,

As your research has shown it is indeed linked to the Fleet Chat permissions.

The restriction initially was an unconscious decision until we became aware of how the permissions were tied to fleet chat.

This is currently disabled or enabled based on a rank within the fleet. Currently, the decision by the Admiralty has been to enable fleet chat for Admirals only. It will be discussed fully in our forthcoming meeting about where our final position will lie on this access.

Before the launch of Armada's the Fleet chat was somewhat restricted in the sense that between our 4 fleets we wouldn't be able to intercommunicate and as such StonewallFleet was born. Upon the launch of Armadas, we now need to decide if this channel is still sufficient as a means of communication when inviting external fleets into our Armada. As we currently only have one external fleet, we have sufficient time to make a reasonable and well thought out decision and also have members (Admirals) with chat access in case that external fleet is using it as a communication means (currently it seems not).

There are pro's and cons to either option of the decision.

Please bare with us while we decide upon a final verdict.

Thanks for the reply and for keeping us in the loop on this; would be nice to start teaming with our Armada members, is all. Let us know what ends up being decided!

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Thanks for the reply and for keeping us in the loop on this; would be nice to start teaming with our Armada members, is all. Let us know what ends up being decided!

Would a custom Stonewall Armada channel be an appropriate solution?

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Just a quick bump of the thread to open a dialogue with respect to where we stand as a fleet, on the Armada functionality that launched with Season 10.5; specifically, if we are approaching or have been approached by other fleets in an effort to expand Stonewall's Armada. I was hoping we could discuss what kind of discussions or plans are in the works as far as that's concerned, and whether there'd been any conversation regarding officially implemented plans to allow for cross-fleet communication within any armada that we ultimately form.

My personal feeling is that making use of the Armada system would help maintain our fleet's relevance in an ever-changing STO environment and I'm personally eager and hopeful to get the Stonewall Armada underway. Just looking for some information sharing or to have some conversation regarding Armadas and how we see it fitting with our fleet :)

What a fancy Bump Voleron!!

It was discussed as Dex said, and I apologize that its taken as long to let you all know whats happening.

As you know we at Stonewall value our community spirit, and the family we have created for ourselves in our down time.
Some of Us feel (I was one of them) we will loose that family spirit, and wont know who is who if we open the Armada chat in the same chat channel, that goes hand in hand with the worry that our CoC will be out of place.. our FCs and Admirals may take more time to check if a person who breaches Stonewalls CoC, is in our Fleet.. or in another fleet.. giving them added responsibility's... or do we have a right to make the other fleets live by our guidelines in chat, spoilers, PG13? etc.
As well as new members asking for an invite.. what fleet are they wanting.. is it us? etc etc.. lots to think about.

There fore it was decided that we open up another separate channel, much like our events channel we used during pride, and invited anyone from in the game to join in.
Members may join at there own risk, with an understanding that it may not be monitored & moderated in the same way as Stonewall Chat,.. so we will see how that goes once we add more fleets into our Armada... we obviously don't want it becoming like STO Zone chat (if youve ever seen that) so we will see how it goes and maybe.. if we need to strike up some agreed rules with the other fleets when they join.

Nick Will be working on opening this separate channel (StonewallArmada) very soon, and I will let you know when it goes live. :cheer:

Thanks for the update!

Those are all valid concerns and I'm really appreciative that the admiralty is thinking this through in its entirety. A hastened decision could definitely lead to a the armada requiring quite a bit of unneeded effort on the part of Stonewall--mainly the additional moderation and application of our rules/guidelines. Plus, getting buy in from the other fleets might be really tough and it could come across that we're bullying them or being overbearing. It could easily shatter the armada and create an environment where the other fleets start to become a revolving door of joining and leaving.

Maybe a fleet poll or contest to name the Armada Channel? BaconArmada ?

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Those are all valid concerns and I'm really appreciative that the admiralty is thinking this through in its entirety. A hastened decision could definitely lead to a the armada requiring quite a bit of unneeded effort on the part of Stonewall--mainly the additional moderation and application of our rules/guidelines. Plus, getting buy in from the other fleets might be really tough and it could come across that we're bullying them or being overbearing. It could easily shatter the armada and create an environment where the other fleets start to become a revolving door of joining and leaving.

Maybe a fleet poll or contest to name the Armada Channel? BaconArmada ?

Sorry, already beat ya too it. :P Nothing extreme in the naming as there's no actually way to name the armada. (I was personally hoping to name it the Turing Armada :(). The channel is just StonewallArmada. It exists and you can join it whenever you like.

We decided this was the best way to go as it allows us to remove offending individuals without having to kick an entire fleet and still allows for cross-faction chat. Though, StonewallFleet channel should still be our default chat for most conversation.

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Just a quick bump of the thread to open a dialogue with respect to where we stand as a fleet, on the Armada functionality that launched with Season 10.5; specifically, if we are approaching or have been approached by other fleets in an effort to expand Stonewall's Armada. I was hoping we could discuss what kind of discussions or plans are in the works as far as that's concerned, and whether there'd been any conversation regarding officially implemented plans to allow for cross-fleet communication within any armada that we ultimately form.

My personal feeling is that making use of the Armada system would help maintain our fleet's relevance in an ever-changing STO environment and I'm personally eager and hopeful to get the Stonewall Armada underway. Just looking for some information sharing or to have some conversation regarding Armadas and how we see it fitting with our fleet :)

As Gareth stated, sorry for not updating you guys sooner. We've had some things to discuss and things have been changing rather rapidly.

As soon as the armada feature was announced, we started getting requests to join our armada from lots of different places and this was before we even gotten to look at the system on Tribble. We needed to decide what we wanted from the armada and what information we needed to get from the fleets to inform our decision of who to invite. We had settled on a few fleets to invite and once reaching out to them, the day after 10.5 launched, they had all (save one) decided to join other armadas.

We settled on three basic rules. The fleets have to be either glbta or glbta-affirming. They have to be larger than 1 person and active. And they can't be made up of disgruntled ex-Stonewall members. Now that things are settling down a bit, we can reach out to the community and see what other kind of allies we can find.

Speaking of which: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1198618/stonewall-armada-looking-for-fleets

I mean... I have things to discus and the like.

Fine Nick......RIP BaconArmada. :-(

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Fine Nick......RIP BaconArmada. :-(

Psst Jamie, you should make that channel if for no other reason than spite. :P

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Fine Nick......RIP BaconArmada. :-(

we needs bacon! :woohoo:

kasper...that's a perfect idea. at least a hashtag... #BaconArmada. it could be a chat channel or even a forum name on the site...but it must not die. the line must be drawn heeeeeeeeeyah!!!! no far, no further.

Just to update you all. We've gotten a couple people interested, but none that have met our minimum requirements unfortunately. We want real fleets that can sustain themselves. Mostly what we're seeing this is small one or two people fleets who are looking for an active community sustain them. We're still looking though.

This is part of a bigger issue though. If you look in the Earth Spacedock section on the official forums, you'll see dozens of threads for fleets looking for gamma fleets. The issue is that every fleets wants to be an alpha fleet instead of taking a gamma slot.

We'll keep looking though and hopefully hear back from some more candidates soon.

STO could fix the mechanics of this by making it so that fleets only of size X can become an alpha.

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STO could fix the mechanics of this by making it so that fleets only of size X can become an alpha.

Yea like 300-400+ Alpha fleet

200-299 Beta fleet

And 1-199 Gama fleet.

That way it'd sort each eligible fleet for their respective position. B)

UPDATE:

As you may have noticed, we have welcomed a new fleet to our Armada

Special Task Group

STG will be one of our Gamma Fleets, under Stonewall Legion.
Nick has extended our welcome, and has invited them to join our Stonewall Armada channel.

For all our members, You’re also welcome to join the StonewallArmada chat channel in-game. Simply enter ‘/channel_join StonewallArmada’ into the chat field... and chat away to our Armada Fleets.
(Keep in mind, that Stonewall Armada is not fully moderated, ..but of course we are the best fleet and we have amazing etiquette and friendly manners, so lets show that off! )

Nick is currently in the process of working hard towards adding new Fleets to our Armada.. As well as Getting the right Armada for House of Nagh reD.
Please feel free to send us recommendations on great KDF, glbta or a glbt-affirming Armadas that we can look into.

We will let you know our progression as it unfolds